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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
我就是个普通观众，如果你觉得自己也是个普通观众，我建议你别上院线看了，两个半小时如果你完整看下来你肯定也会获得和我一样的同款？，电影进行到一个小时才出现一个小高潮，整体看得貌似非常史诗，但是细究起来没有一点精彩实质内容，据说还要拍第二三部，要连起来看才有意思，作为普通观众的我，只想劝另一些同我一样的普通观众，别给自己找难受。科幻里冷兵器打斗+150分钟讲不清楚的超长预告片，真的实打实的困（这只是我个人的感受）
世袭制、基因决定论、宫廷斗争、资源掠夺、人兽种族的二元论（无机器人？）、繁殖与殖民文化、人类中心主义的视角、古老的神话体系、弱肉强食的生存法则、神秘的东方符号、男权思想、毫无设计感的打斗模式、冷兵器式的困兽斗、可以预言的“未来”……如果这些俗套的元素是维伦纽瓦/好莱坞要呈现的科幻世界的话，那么它应该用“闪回”的手法表现过去/回忆才对吧。
现在，即便是维伦纽瓦，做个不恰当的比喻吧：
我不理解[苦涩]
他话还没说完，人们就迫不及待地打断他：还有淹死这种死法？
还是熟悉的牛蛙，一定要刷IMAX，得去看原著补课了。
根据上世纪60年代的科幻小说改编，由于我对此题材并不熟悉也无兴趣，看得较艰难，分三次才看完。视听制作的精致与大气让人佩服，估计会开创未来一个科幻系列电影的畅销潮流。三星都是给导演对制作把控的赞赏。
3.结尾主角弱鸡苍白的身体是如何贴身肉搏战胜另外一个强壮战士的？女主不相信关于他的预言，为什么还把祖传的匕首借给他？
故事内核太老套了，配乐和镜头手拉手装神弄鬼，情节充满我理解不了的设定：星际时代为什么要肉搏？九千年之后人类还在继续反封建反殖民？都公元一万多年了号称能左右人类政治的神秘组织还在搞希特勒的优生学？这部电影有多长，我的吐槽就可以持续多长............
这片用二倍速看都不够，因为导演是用1/4速度剪的
全程被汉斯•季默的象牙匕首顶着喉咙，听他嘶吼：我大不大！我大不大？！
逼格过高 以至于像满嘴吃了沙子一样饥渴 沉闷漫长
巨物恐惧症慎入，乐山大佛受害者小组集体死亡事件，片中有大量庞然大物，各种建筑飞艇还有沙虫。打斗非常简洁，BGM吵得头疼，氛围世界观什么的挺有意思，剧情推进缓慢，整整两个半小时还就讲了个开头，以男主逃难进入土著领域结尾
所以他们决定展开一项宏伟的计划：改造沙丘。
一甲子辉煌的科幻殿堂作品，要电影改得富有新意，注定是不可能的。它的许多元素，早已经被其他电影偷师化用。而且，我对电影的观看好奇，完全来自纪录片《佐杜洛夫斯基的沙丘》。喜欢的事物，是2D IMAX的飞行器，复古机械的厚重实在，枯燥单调荒无人烟的沙漠背景。至于故事要套莎翁王子复仇记，还是撒哈拉蓝眼睛的柏柏尔人，乃至将来必定要发生的人均塔利班，战争机器开动，反杀皇帝，都是个人随兴所至。或者这么讲，我只要想要隔壁厅的战争爆破场面，再随便对比下这部电影的片段，就能得出来结论，《沙丘》是建立在“美”的追求和审视上。你说美是形式，是凹造型，或者大又空都行。但它的黄沙滚滚，飞天蜻蜓落地螳螂，感觉就是一帧一帧的美。
好无聊，毫无新意。几百年前中国人的武侠小说也是这么写的。掠夺资源，党派纷争，美国人的脑袋里还有别的东西吗？一万年过去了，人类打架还在械斗，还在玩资本主义这一套。你跟我说这叫科幻？不要营销了，搞笑
6.5/10。在困意与扇醒自己来看奇观间切换。并没有读过原著，所以看完最震惊的点是这种故事是如何成为科幻经典的。维伦纽瓦的服化摄影依旧简洁，但也许过素了；同样问题出现在配乐上，有史诗感却过强。不停出现的预言画面强化着电影预告片属性，赞达亚广告般特写多到让我翻白眼。说了很多缺点，但不可否认它可能是十年内最适合大荧幕观看的电影，还有啥自行车！
到了新世纪二十年代，技术和投资都到位了，但这些上世纪神一样的原著们以现代眼光来看，核心内容都似一件件陈旧的袍子，乍看上去依然堂皇，底子却散发着腐朽之味，基地如此沙丘亦如此，本质上都是批着科幻皮的政争文学，还是最腐朽的那种宗教与皇权掺杂的政争题材。这一部为了铺陈设定，用了大量的旁白叙述，令人倒足胃口。
这是一个矫情的电影，但是很多人不敢评论他矫情，怕被说没看懂，怕被说不会欣赏，但是我不怕，因为他确实是矫情。
不过瘾的慢动作打戏，10000年➕了还在冷兵器搏斗，the one（天选之子）和帝王公爵殖民主义的老套设定，人物形象还没立起来就咔咔死了一堆人…作为一个没有看过书的人只觉得还是一头雾水。
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