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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
不可否认影片画面构图讲究，灰暗的影调确实有一种悲凉感。但是，画面处理后过于暗沉，人物面孔表情无法看清，身边不少朋友坦诚看完电影认不清角色；镜头之间链接不连贯，叙事较乱；能看出导演有一些想法比如小人物的故事，上级命令与同伴生死的两难选择，超现实段落等，但是确实没有讲好。
①男演员还算接地气，女演员就太漂亮了，太漂亮了让人觉得不真实。②能看出来电影有美院的参与，几乎每一帧都能看出来，为什么，构图和光影很美，但是美得很程式化、很刻意，久了让人觉得很无聊，我知道电影团队如果看到这条评论可能会想“你懂什么！”，但是电影是要讲故事的，是要牢牢抓住观众注意力的，单纯让人欣赏那是景区宣传，不叫电影。整个风格非常美院，画面很美院，叙事风格也很美院，可能电影团队觉得有一种留白的美。但我觉得看得云里雾里、交待不清楚。③这句话写给某个磨刀霍霍试图在中国影坛闯荡的电影从业者：用拍商业大片的方式拍红色题材，让观众发自内心地觉得好看、有意思，而不是为了完成政治任务走进电影，不要让红色主旋律变成“无聊”的代名词！
有些突兀，尤其转镜，但音效，色彩，摄影很好。（2022.06.20 南京）
摄影的出彩毋庸多说，镜头在浙江的池沼密林间攀爬腾挪，光影流转，其实是以武侠语境讲革命遗事。意识形态因而在一定程度上得以松绑，大的指向下，个人选择容许被理解：军令还是兄弟，懦夫还是英雄？尽管叙事有断裂，人物心理转变也多突兀处。而最好的点则是不再将战争浪漫化，残肢断腿，枪枪毙命，血雨洗面。不然最后的胜利从何而来？
看到了胡金铨的影子，看到了黑泽明的影子。脱去主旋律的外衣，本质上就是一个武侠片。
#BJIFF 应该是今年看过的电影里影调做的最好的。导演说致力于电影本体的研究，实话说一线的教师能把电影拍成这样，不容易。真实战争面，共和白，血雨洗刷。拿最佳摄影应该有戏
看到有人在认真拍电影，还是感动，不太愿意苛责。
就能感觉到电影没打算要讲好一个故事，侧重点不在这上面，然后美术和摄影蛮好的，表演和场景的设置也很有话剧感。是那种我不在电影院看看一会就关了的电影hh
看睡着了两次…节奏有点慢，然后前面卖惨后面又开挂…就…不行啊
运镜太糟糕了，人物刻画单薄刻板，氛围没做成反而变成故弄玄虚，唯一想夸一下的画面也因为运镜调度被毁了
深影5号厅银幕右侧十分之一明显更亮，观影感极差。
深影5号厅银幕右侧十分之一明显更亮，观影感极差。
整个故事的架构感觉问题很大。说得好听是学院派但给我的感觉更像是大型的学生作业。在视听的处理和画面风格上有一些创新，但是工业流程很明显不熟练，录音部分让普通观众都能意识到存在问题。幻境与现实的切换在创作团队看来是合理的，但是一旦跳脱出创作的语境就会觉得一时间无法理解。总体来说就是自以为达到艺术成就的自嗨。
素人演员阵容搭配大面积的昏暗场景，以至于在最终都没有搞清楚角色之间谁究竟是谁，算是“诗意”风格的追求之余，在“看懂故事”方面做出的牺牲，也注定了本片对影迷以外的路人观众会有些不友好。
理想与现实的赞歌，有点1917的影子，但差距不是一星半点。
画面这么黑，是后期偷懒还是节约经费？除了个别场景真的和诗意没得太大的关系。没得细节，还看不清演员表演。
黑白格调奠定了以浓重悲情色彩为基础，淡化了战争冲突，严格来说质感和美学之间并没有想象中精致，镜头平移频繁切换视角把小人物弧光提高了好几个层面，非主旋律那般牺牲，却也因为叙事过于依赖氛围铺垫导致不够特别，且在两者之间没有一个妥协性~
65，风格极度强烈的作品，战斗段落我都挺喜欢的，不过确实太暗了，而且录音太差了。
摄影组的默契，就像神圣罗马帝国的选帝侯们一样，而演员们的萧山话水平，直接让我恐怖谷拉满了……
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