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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
很喜欢这个设定，把叛逆期变成一个实体来比喻真的很有新意。通常pixar disney的电影都是老少皆宜，大人也可以enjoy，但是这部有几个镜头有点太过青少。总体很喜欢，对asian family诠释的很到位了。
看完后我更理解了“华裔和国人除了长得相似以外没啥共同点”这一点——他们不是我们，也代表不了我们；被异化的他们抱着一点残存的文化碎片如数家珍，而我们则有口难言。
全片很扭捏，虽然是例行的合家欢，但是过程别扭德想吐。看起来是讲亚裔，其实是讲的香蕉人，里面很多时候，亚裔的传统思想没有讲清楚，新生代种族融合的新思想也没有讲好，这种原始设定都没有展示完整的理念，只能强行用爱和神话去圆谎，所以，最后总感觉隔靴搔痒，还抓得大腿破了皮！
每个人心里都有一头怪兽，不想被人发现的那一面，释放出来活出完整的自己，还是隐藏一世？担心自己驾驭不了的母辈们选择了后者，美美选择了和怪兽共存，让原本可怕的一面反而大受欢迎。母女在竹林产生共鸣那段泪流满面，多少儿女在渴求父母的理解和认同的路上走得伤痕累累。 不仅情节深刻节奏又细又准动作丝滑度又上一个档次，谁能想到皮克斯还能把人内心里那头怪兽做到如此萌炸天，Pixar YYDS！！
(●￣(ｴ)￣●) 成长是怪兽，可怕又可爱
笑着笑着就哭了。想和妈妈一起看，告诉她我也是这样turning red：伤害了你，然后成为了自己，而这让我懂得该如何爱你。
虽然一大家子小熊猫很萌，但也不喜欢祖宗宗祠这种东西，哪怕是母系。要什么祖宗，真正的rebel会唾弃这种东西吧……【但同时又很related我妈，就，五十多岁才开始真正解放，比电影里的妈妈晚多了（当然我自己能活明白也晚多了，羡慕枫叶国
又恢复到了皮克斯一贯水准，女性成长与解放自我的故事，可惜没有进影院直接上线，红色熊猫又能卖一波了！
厉害了，导演是89年重庆出生的，故事三观非常正，非常迪斯尼童话，我觉得最让人印象深刻的就是，电影里面的世界观也正在跟着现实的转变而去描述，比如以前的观念，大家看到一个人变成怪物肯定会怕，或者对抗，但现在已经是在和平相处，当然，这个怪物只是个隐喻，这就是电影很积极的一面。人物形象可能华人非常有熟悉感吧，妈妈、外婆，七大姑八大姨什么的，太形象了。美美的形象，真的很想我以前的某个同学的样子。
everybody has their inner fear or problems. perhaps a better way to deal with them is to accept them, make room for them, translate them, and live with them. life isn't perfect, so is every one of us. to be a perfect self is illusory and will only drive us to the abyss we set. accept who we are, good or bad, with no judgment. love and peace can be found in the present and the present is the best moment.
想想我的13岁也是这么的躁动窘迫。
勉强及格吧禁不起推敲。诸多亚裔的刻板印象，非常尴尬，甚至有乳的嫌疑。总的说来好像讲了一个故事就叫做怎么别人都没事就尼玛你有事，还是大事。这种高等华人对其他族群文化困境和身份认同矛盾采取无视的态度真的很欠揍啊。
因为建国后不许成精，所以小熊猫全家移民加拿大的故事
红熊猫包含了小女孩青春期的各种躁动，含义也很丰富，尤其它的传说，红熊猫可以是祝福，也可能是诅咒：来月事能生育，长大成女人，是好事是坏事也都一念间。这种人无完人，接纳多面自己的观念灌输，就很适合给容易自我怀疑的青春期小孩看啊。怎么平衡好身边各种亲密关系，平衡好家庭和外面世界，平衡好传统和新鲜，一道道都是要跨的槛。真的很明亮可爱，本来红熊猫毛茸茸就很萌，还动不动爆热血日漫星星眼；竹林、诗画、“照妖镜”、宗祠祭祖、道士做法之类也都很有中国神怪故事印记在，整个片就跟小美一样，可爱得古灵精怪。
你永远可以相信皮克斯，披着亚裔成长皮的女权片hhhhh释放被封印的小熊猫！以及，这个母女关系真的是过于像我和我妈引发不适
相当混杂的观感 从皮克斯 甚至从迪士尼正常的水准出发 我大概都给不到这片合格的分数——随意的高概念 不讲道理的剧情逻辑和缺乏说服力的结局落点 让我非常质疑这部电影的诚意；但另一方面 这种极其典型的亚洲式家庭逻辑 又切实让我有一种无奈而尴尬的亲切感 很希望能有机会 跟海外华裔小伙伴和自幼在海外长大的歪果女性朋友聊聊这部电影 看看能不能找到什么新的视点和共鸣吧
可能是因为我的原生家庭太不中国式了，所以我对这类题材都只能表示理解但是无法共情。
只是美美啊，你不好的那一面太可爱了，不会伤人。而平凡的人们，没有red panda。伤人的那一面，只能隐藏起来。
看完后我更理解了“华裔和国人除了长得相似以外没啥共同点”这一点——他们不是我们，也代表不了我们；被异化的他们抱着一点残存的文化碎片如数家珍，而我们则有口难言。
▫️虽然剧情简单，但是品的出很有诚意！导演和整个剧组都把自己青春期的真实经历放进去了，永远觉得你不够优秀的父母，觉得流行音乐都是垃圾的父母，让你当众社死的父母，和好朋友们一起脚趾抠地的追星，在作业本上涂涂画画东掖西藏的秘密日记，伤心的时候抱住自己的狗狗玩具缩成一团大哭…这一切都穿梭到我再也不想回去的13岁…那个时候朋友们单纯的友情和鼓励，也让我挨过了漫长的来自于家庭否定的青春。
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